This paper will present a short conversation between the Conversational Model and a secular Buddhist model on the nature, development and possible transcendence of our experience of self. Using short clinical vignette’s, the speaker will compare and contrast concepts from the two models to support his suggestion that both models are referring, with differing aims and starting points, to common aspects of the experience of being human. The speaker will ground the presentation in a physicalist, non-reductive view of the bodily substrate underlying conscious experience emphasising self as constantly transforming process.